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Welcome to Changing the Conversation! We discuss critical and timely topics focused on equity, homelessness, substance use, mental health, and trauma. Our hosts interview health and human service experts, researchers, and advocates. Conversations explore how we can adapt our systems to the rapidly changing landscape of social services.

Challenging Silos in Recovery Services (originally released March 7, 2022)

Aug 22, 2022

Laurie Johnson-Wade shares about the Ubuntu approach to life as a culture shift for recovery services from separateness and isolation to community and connectivity with host Ashley Stewart. This episode originally released March 7, 2022.

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Jul 11, 2022

Daryl McGraw and Ashley Stewart discuss ways recovery support services can respond to Black, Brown, and Indigenous People of Color in ways that acknowledge the compounding effects of racism with host Livia Davis. This episode was originally released on October 25, 2021.

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May 30, 2022

Phil Rutherford and host Ashley Stewart discuss how to apply the tenets of critical race theory when providing recovery support services.

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Mar 7, 2022

Laurie Johnson-Wade shares about the Ubuntu approach to life as a culture shift for recovery services from separateness and isolation to community and connectivity with host Ashley Stewart.

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Dec 6, 2021

Jennifer Smith and Laurie Johnson-Wade discuss a process for fostering recovery supports for all with a focus on Black communities and anti-Black racism with host Livia Davis.

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